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Much respect for not absolutely destroying them as someone who's newer it was so hard to just learn the game because of all the smurfs😅😅

After this match, disabled toaster got repurposed into a pathfinder 😂

thats how they act in my lobby i have almost a 2 kd and a 3 kd for the season and they are all trash now i help my girl and a few friends get better by trying to teach and tweak there keys and ALC to there play style

Bro i wanna be in this lobby... i get thrown in with pred 3 mans. This looks like a 5k 30 bomb on ever legend.

This is peak apex entertainment

Funny how the people that complain about aim assist while they use their entire arm to aim and abuse tap strafe mechanics (basically movement hacks totally legit on pc)

It feels one dimensional cos you're not used to the controls yet... Try 90 days of playing and improving your controller movement techniques.

Fantastic commentary, really had me laughing dude.

Yea so far I agree especially on movement cause the only way for me to have good movement on controller is to use horizon

And now I know the pain my friends went through teaming with me during my level up 😂😂 sitting at a solid 0.12 back then and I was proud 🥹

I think it's hilarious when I see people trying to wall bounce to avoid me when I'm playing on roller, it literally does nothing for them since my aim is near perfect even at a distance where aim assist doesn't even function. Doing dumb looking hops on walls to avoid getting shot while getting lasered seems pretty embarrassing to me

W list👍

As someone who switched to M&K a few months back, controller is absolutely garbage except in very close fights. Putting that aside, it feels like you're playing a completely different game on m&k. Controller needs a huge overhaul in this game, nerf roational AA and give them movement and call it a day 🤷‍♂️

9:26 i was going to comment the same thing you said about upclose combat but at i would prefer that respawn made controller aim assist the same as pc but give them more sensitivity customization mos game have 1-20 different senses for roller

tbh no ones ever happy

This is the best take I’ve heard on MNK vs Controller

Their aim is actually really fucking good for the most part surprisingly, especially for placing on MnK

I think when it comes to m&k up close it depends on the person and how well you're able to track your reticle and the reticle box from up close?

Which is extremely difficult to do, but it is possible. I've spent a very long time and I'm probably like 40 minutes every single day in the firing range. Just practicing reticle placement and recoil patterns. That's it. That's the only two things that I practice every single day for 40 minutes just so that I can have a chance to compete.

The reason your amelia's is hurting you is because it's at a value of three and it's no longer at a value of six. So at that point the amoses doesn't really do anything unless your reticle is perfectly centered on the target the entire time

Even then, you still have to do a lot of tracking of your reticle as well as reacting as well as controlling your recoil pattern. And now since we're aiming at a value of three point amoss instead of six nowadays, you have to do a lot more tracking than you did in season 15. On console you're also playing. Majority of players are not on high tier setups. Majority of players are also not playing with state-of-the-art controllers like most of the pro players are. When a lot of players are still on Old gen so the fact of the matter is the Nerf was unnecessary. Regardless of what pros or cons there was.

In terms of range, you're better off making use of your reticle placement and The recoil patterns

Still rather get a PC and play mnk

It's actually not 6 anymore it's 3 since they nerfed it in season 16 which was stupid bc now you have track way more than you should have to on a controller

Personally, I think all m&k players are complainers personally. Right now. The way way AA is working right now on a controller and the fact that you have to track a lot more than you should have to. I would rather play on mouse and keyboard. It should have never been nerfed

paddles will boost your movement for sure wall bounce, super glide, interaction time for shield swaps and opening doors as well. Cool vid but you do need more time on roller for movement.

top 10000 r5r players, controller players on average have 30% better aim only 4 mnk players are in the top 1000 every 4th roller player is better then 99.94% of pc players

They do complain alot. Having aim assist doesn't automatically make you good at aiming, you still have to be good at the game.

For the love of god just seperate inputs and both sides will stop crying. MnK players will have to play against other movement sweats and controller players will be playing against others with aim assist. I'm soooooo tired of this topic, and there's a lot of coping on both sides.

I started playing on it and yeah it aims for you actual cheats lmao I was dropping more damage than everyone in ltms easily then playing real game I was hitting shots id never hit its so stupid. .4 is just way too high and it shouldnt track for you.

Great vid dude

I played controller most of my life up till apex came out and I don’t remember if there was rotational aim assist. It seems really op these days especially with its 0 ms correction speed. Sadly I don’t think there will be a change anytime soon since console on apex is apparently their biggest player base.

is it not most inporten the fun part?

6:20 thats why as a roller player you play wraith, horizon, octane use your Q and barrel stuff people

Great video! Thank you for your unbiased opinion

W analysis, really on point they shoud nerf the rotational AA at least by 50% then give us movement freedom

bro took the strike pack off for the picture

on pc there are so many players using cronus scripts and ds4 scripts on controller, many more players than you or anyone else would think, if you see a controller reticle shaking it's a script, gotta entertain people though

Aimassist working against you is such a good point out. Turned it off for a while and stop using automatics

Im 30 hours in just got into apex recently been playing ranked having high kill games and good damage (for me) only silver though really enjoying it. It seems im getting into the game when everyone is quitting lmao. I imagine the only reason im having fun rn is cus im new and my acc isnt being exposed to any of this matchmaking stuff.

Not even joking the amount of roller players i know that said take away aim assist and give roller tap strafe. Most people i know agree

If your good enough on controller you can get that insane level of movement. And to be honest lately ive been getting like no aim assist half the time

Your Probably The Most Sane MnK Player

7:53 aim assist does lock on to the knocked guy if he's closer to you, even if you're not ADSing. It's so annoying and has gotten me killed a few times because I have to hard pull away my view from the knocked guy, and sometimes I can't do it fast enough

Gamesense wise your right, but if one input literally has an assistance is basically "cheating" is just a fact that it has an advantage over mnk. It just should not exist, controller players should just practice like and mnk player. And movement wise, I thin they should bring back tap strafe to controler, cuz removing it makes no sense and brings one small advantage to mnk, which still smaller than AA.

Movement kills aim assist

So basically, controller isn't fun and sucks in every way besides being broken at close range. I switched from roller to mnk and some of those weaknesses on roller get mitigated with time on the input. So what is the point of roller being so strong on pc?

Best take I’ve heard so far - especially when it comes to balancing inputs against each other. This logic can be applied to any and all games with rotational aim assist. The reaction time factor shouldn’t be negated completely on any input. W take

8:20 mnk people have so much more advantages but they still complain 😂 it’s CRAZY bruh 9/10 my controller teammates SUCK so don’t tell me aim assist does everything for people Either you’re good or you’re trash I’m a controller player that always has a secondary long range or atleast 3xcog Any range is easy if you practice If I don’t play I become trash very quickly Trash people will always find a way to complain I’ve had teammates die and quit immediately. When I see the score at the end I’m confused because if I was trash like them I would want to be on the team of someone doing well😅but they rage quit the same way people rage complain